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[edit]This article appears to have been plagiarized from the following: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Ottoman-Triumvirate
- The Ottoman Interregnum (also known as the Ottoman Triumvirate) was a period in the beginning of the 15th century when chaos reigned in the Ottoman Empire following the defeat of sultan Beyazid I in 1402 by the Mongol warlord Timur Lenk. Around 1410 the three sons of Beyazid left alive after the Battle of Ankara ruled each half of the remaindants of the empire. The eldest son, Suleiman Çelebi, ruled nothern Greece, Bulgaria and Thrace. His brother, İsa Çelebi ruled Greece and the westernmost of Anatolia, however he was overthrown by the younger half-brother Mehmed Çelebi from his capitol in Bursa in 1404. Suleiman then accuired southern Greece as well and Mehmet ruled over Anatolia. Mehmet then sent his younger brother Mûsa across the Black Sea with a large army to conquer Suleiman. Mûsa won in Bulgaria in 1410 and Suleiman was forced to retreat south to Greece. Mûsa then proclaimed himself as sultan of the Ottoman Empire. Mehmed became furious and sent a small army over to Gallipoli where it was defeated. Mehmed later came to his senses and forced an allians with the Byzantine Empire. Three years later Mehmed sent over a new army. This time it was much stronger and defeated Mûsa in Kamerlu, Serbia. It was then easy for Mehmed I to overthrow his last brother in Greece and become the Ottoman sultan.
- Nope, look at the bottom right-hand of [1] more carefully. It says that the article is from wikipedia. --snoyes 20:03, 21 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I didn't scroll down all the way (that is a long scroll-down)! Thanks for catching my mistake, Slrubenstein
Should "forced" be "forged?" Mergy
This isn't written like an encyclopedia. It's written like bad propaganda or prose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sieurfill (talk • contribs) 21:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Fate of Suleyman
[edit]What happened to Suleyman after he was defeated. There are two contradicting scenerios in the text. In one paragraph we learn that he fled south to Greece and in the other we learn that he died on his way to İstanbul. Which is correct ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:34, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- According to Caroline Finkel, "...Suleyman was soon executed near Edirne on Musa's order...", -- Osman's Dream, p32. FYI, it was Constantinople until the Turkish Postal law of 1930.
- According to Shaw(who waxes too poetically for me), "Suleyman's early victories were reversed when Musa won the support of the gazi raiding chiefs who feared that Suleyman's triumph would end their ability to advance into Europe, and defeated and killed Suleyman.", -- History of the Ottoman Empire and modern Turkey, Volume 1, p38. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, then why don't you correct the paragraph in the summary section. I have a source by Nicolae Jorga. He claims that Suleyman was killed in 17th of Feb., 1411 by the villagers. As for İstanbul. The popular name of the city was İstanbul after 1453. However in official writings usually two other names had been used: Asitane and Kostantaniyye. (I am not sure if I can type the English prononciation of the later; it is something like Costhonniyyah.) Of course this had been derived from Constantinople . But it was not exactly Constantinople and people usually preferred İstanbul, which is much easier in Turkish . Have a good day. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:27, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Not the sole brother
[edit]One of the last sentences:With Mûsa dead Mehmed was the sole surviving son of the late Sultan Bayezid I and became Sultan Mehmed I. Well this not correct. Mehmet had two other brothers; Mustafa Çelebi who was executed long after the interregnum (even after Mehmet's death) and Kasım (who would be blinded later). I'll try to reach the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
İsa's death
[edit]It reads:İsa then spent time in north-west Anatolia until he was killed by Suleyman in late 1403 Although I didn't change anything, I saw an error in the sentence. According to sources Süleyman supported İsa and İsa fought against Mehmet in 1406. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- I usually don't like to make changes in the articles created by other editors (other than linking and categorizing ) But this time after calling the editor and waiting for a reply in vain, I removed the sentence about İsa's death. All sources agree that he allied himself with Suleyman. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Map
[edit]can anyone find a map of Ottoman Interregnum ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naga Venkata Sai (talk • contribs) 08:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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